Showing posts with label Snowden. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Snowden. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 12, 2014

DiFi Blows a Gasket

Much has been reported recently about the Senate Intelligence Committee looking into the CIA Torture report, and new accusations by the Committee that the CIA had been spying on the Committee.

Today Senate Intelligence Committee Chair Dianne Feinstein took to the Senate Floor condemning the CIA's actions.

Here is her speech posted at Roll Call---I think her personal website isn't working (feinstein.senate.gov) especially since other Senators I tried work fine---though it could easily be my crappy computer....


Rolling Stone highlighted 11 shocking statements from her speech, including one of my favorites, her criticism of Haystack, which she defends when talking about need for NSA collecting metadata on everyone, regardless of suspicion and without a warrant, another problem she has with CIA spying on Congress (correctly, due to Separation of Powers) but sees as fine for American citizens and innocents in other countries.

When the Intelligence Committee launched a full-fledged investigation into what Senator Feinstein describes as the "the horrible details of a CIA program that never, never, never should have existed," the CIA unleashed documents as if it were trying to bury needles in a haystack.
The number of pages ran quickly to the thousands, tens of thousands, the hundreds of thousands, and then into the millions. The documents that were provided came without any index, without organizational structure. It was a true "document dump" that our committee staff had to go through and make sense of. (emphasis NOT mine)

Several Statements from C-SPAN

and here is CIA Director John Brennan responding at CFR today


Marcy Wheeler at Emptywheel always does great work on this, writing about the overlooked aspects of the story Robert Eatinger FOIA  Double Standards



Today's (3/11/14) reports from McClatchy and NYT

Feinstein defends Senate

March 4, Did CIA spy on Senate?

Feinstein Publicly Accusses CIA of Spying

Senator Udall statement

Feinstein statement

March 6 FBI probing Senate removing documents from CIA


Those following closely the intelligence community, and especially since Snowden leaked NSA documents, have been criticizing Feinstein for her defending NSA actions.

When the Verizon order first came out, Feinstein said that this was the normal 215 order renewed every 3 months, and legal under Patriot Act authorized by Congress for several years (I think it was since 2006 or 2007)

Many senators who defended the NSA said that "if you don't do anything wrong you have nothing to fear since you have nothing to hide"

Obama and many others said that there is "Congressional, Judicial and Executive Branch Oversight"

Today Feinstein is making certain statements that fly in the face of her previous statements defending the NSA.

The Panetta review documents were no more highly classified than other information we had received for our investigation—in fact, the documents appeared to be based on the same information already provided to the committee.
What was unique and interesting about the internal documents was not their classification level, but rather their analysis and acknowledgement of significant CIA wrongdoing.
To be clear, the committee staff did not “hack” into CIA computers to obtain these documents as has been suggested in the press. The documents were identified using the search tool provided by the CIA to search the documents provided to the committee.
We have no way to determine who made the Internal Panetta Review documents available to the committee. Further, we don’t know whether the documents were provided intentionally by the CIA, unintentionally by the CIA, or intentionally by a whistle-blower.

Feinstein also mentioned
After a series of meetings, I learned that on two occasions, CIA personnel electronically removed committee access to CIA documents after providing them to the committee. This included roughly 870 documents or pages of documents that were removed in February 2010, and secondly roughly another 50 were removed in mid-May 2010.
This was done without the knowledge or approval
 and that she has asked for an apology.



With NSA, Feinstein and other defenders have said that

  • it's all legal
  • only metadata
  • nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide
  • there is congressional, judicial and executive branch oversight

So the hypocrisy when it is Her and her staff that is being spied on is laughable, even though this is a serious issue of constitutional protections and separation of powers, and she is right in this case. 

I have said in the past that the "3 equal branches" made it easy to blame each other, as GOP in Congress blame Obama and Obama blames GOP in Congress.

Now it appears they spy on each other as well.

Tuesday, February 25, 2014

Leakers are ignored whistleblowers

Those who leak are ignored whistleblowers, who have followed legal regulations for reporting illegal activity.

Edward Snowden leaked documents to Glenn Greenwald at the Guardian, who shared them with New York Times, Guardian, and Der Spiegal as well as Barton Gellman at the Washington Post.

The New York Times published a story in December 2005 that the Bush Administration was wiretapping Americans without warrants.

Chelsea Manning gave documents to Wikileaks, who shared them with New York Times, Guardian, and Der Spiegal.

Daniel Ellsberg gave the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times.


These are all famous leakers, people with inside access to national security secrets, who when they saw abuse, shared it with the public through the press.

But it is not that simple. There was a long process that lead to their decisions to go to the press in order to get the story out.

I have pointed out many times that those who leak to the press are ignored whistleblowers.

Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers
Daniel Ellsberg had worked in defense and at RAND for many years
consulting with Air Force generals during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis (Brothers, pg 172)

he was writing intelligence reports on Vietnam for the Department of Defense in the summer of 1965 (Young pg 168)

Ellsberg was knowledgable about the Vietnamese countryside, working with Robert Komer at CORDS in 1966 (Young pg 212)

Ellsberg was once an advisor to Henry Kissinger (Young 259)

Robert McNamara tasked Leslie Gelb with coordinating the Pentagon Papers report. (Young pg 211)

HERE.... In mid 1969 Ellsberg and 5 RAND colleagues wrote a letter to Nixon protesting the President's war policy. (Young 259)

Ellsberg first gave the Pentagon Papers to Senator Fullbright in November 1969, but Congress was unsure what to do with them, especially after the Secretary of Defense refused to declassify them. (Young 259)

In 1964 Ellsberg had served as government spokesman at the very first anti war teach-in. (Young, 259)

Ellsberg told Seymour Hersh that he had served 15 years, a system that lies automatically from top to bottom to protect a cover-up murder. (Young 259)


For the long story of how the Pentagon Papers made their way slowly to the New York Times, listen to the Democracy Now! program here. It was a long process to get the story out to the public in the New York Times.

And there is also the effort by the government to discredit whistleblowers:

Nixon called the Pentagon Papers the "Kennedy/Johnson Papers" as a way to link the war politically to Democrats (Young 260)

Ellsberg was to be prosecuted for releasing the actual documents, while E Howard Hunt, one of the Watergate Burglars, was tasked with forging cables that would tie President John F Kennedy to the murder of [South Vietnam prime minister] Diem. (Young pg 261) see more on Diem here

Erlichman said Ellsberg "was a fanatic, known to be a drug abuser" (quoted in Young, 261 but Brothers pg 370 corroborates Ellsberg's LSD use day RFK was killed)
but of course I will add that there was no problem with Ellsberg for 15 years, until he broke with govt policy, as is always the case with insiders who turn against wrong policies.


Ellsberg has done many interviews and debates since the Snowden revelations came out.



EDWARD SNOWDEN

Going through official channels achieved nothing Boing Boing quoting NYT interview 
he discovered flaws in the software of the C.I.A.’s personnel Web applications that would make them vulnerable to hacking. He warned his supervisor, he said, but his boss advised him to drop the matter and not rock the boat. After a technical team also brushed him off, he said, his boss finally agreed to allow him to test the system to prove that it was flawed.

 Daily Tech

Reportedly his supervisor found strong evidence that he had been trying to break into systems and files that he did not have access to (top-secret security access, after all, is relatively limited as at most agencies you only have access to the data you're working directly with).  Combined with his increasingly standoffish behavior, his supervisor wrote a derogatory report in his personnel file (called a "derog" in federal government jargon) and convinced CIA officials to relieve him from his post and ship him back home to the U.S.

Former NSA top executive and Whistleblower Thomas Drake, who was prosecuted as a spy for his whistleblowing activies, agrees with Snowden, writing (bold is my emphasis)
The NSA programs that Snowden has revealed are nothing new: they date back to the days and weeks after 9/11. I had direct exposure to similar programs, such as Stellar Wind, in 2001. In the first week of October, I had an extraordinary conversation with NSA's lead attorney. When I pressed hard about the unconstitutionality of Stellar Wind, he said:
"The White House has approved the program; it's all legal. NSA is the executive agent."
It was made clear to me that the original intent of government was to gain access to all the information it could without regard for constitutional safeguards. "You don't understand," I was told. "We just need the data."
continued
Stellar Wind was a highly secret program that, without warrant or any approval from the Fisa court, gave the NSA access to all phone records from the major telephone companies, including US-to-US calls. It correlates precisely with the Verizon order revealed by Snowden; and based on what we know, you have to assume that there are standing orders for the other major telephone companies.
 continued
I took my concerns up within the chain of command, to the very highest levels at the NSA, and then to Congress and the Department of Defense. I understand why Snowden has taken his course of action, because he's been following this for years: he's seen what's happened to other whistleblowers like me.By following protocol, you get flagged – just for raising issues. You're identified as someone they don't like, someone not to be trusted.

AND AFTER TRYING TO TELL NSA IG AND CONGRESS ABOUT ABUSE FOR YEARS, Thomas Drake was ignored for too long.
I reached a point in early 2006 when I decided I would contact a reporter.

 NYT writes Edward Snowden is a WhistleBlower NYT


Chelsea Manning (formerly known as Bradley Manning) 

Wikileaks source for Afghan War Logs, Iraq War Logs, Diplomatic Cables, Collateral Murder Video

For extensive coverage of Manning and Wikileaks and the Trial against them by the US Government, see Alexa O'brien at her Website


Here is the Manning Chat with convicted hacker Adrian Lamo, who turned Manning in after Manning admitted to leaking documents to Wikileaks published by WIRED
(12:15:11 PM) bradass87: hypothetical question: if you had free reign over classified networks for long periods of time… say, 8-9 months… and you saw incredible things, awful things… things that belonged in the public domain, and not on some server stored in a dark room in Washington DC… what would you do?
(12:16:38 PM) bradass87: or Guantanamo, Bagram, Bucca, Taji, VBC for that matter…
(12:17:47 PM) bradass87: things that would have an impact on 6.7 billion people
(12:21:24 PM) bradass87: say… a database of half a million events during the iraq war… from 2004 to 2009… with reports, date time groups, lat-lon locations, casualty figures… ? or 260,000 state department cables from embassies and consulates all over the world, explaining how the first world exploits the third, in detail, from an internal perspective?

Here are excerpts from Manning's statement to the court explaining her actions

I believed that if the general public, especially the American public, had access to the information contained within the [Iraq and Afghan War Logs] this could spark a domestic debate on the role of the military and our foreign policy in general as well as it related to Iraq and Afghanistan. 
 Manning speaks about trying to give documents to several newspapers
At my aunt’s house I debated what I should do with the SigActs, in particular whether I should hold on to them or disclose them to a press agency. At this point I decided that it made sense to expose the SigAct tables to an American newspaper. I first called my local newspaper, The Washington Post, and spoke with a woman saying that she was a reporter. I asked her if the Washington Post would be interested in receiving information that would have enormous value to the American public. Although we spoke for about five minutes concerning the general nature of what I possessed, I do not believe she took me seriously. She informed me that the Washington Post would possibly be interested, but that such decisions were made only after seeing the information I was referring to and after consideration by the senior editors.
I then decided to contact the largest and most popular newspaper, The New York Times. I called the public editor number on the New York Times website. The phone rang and was answered by a machine. I went through the menu section for news tips. I was routed to an answering machine. I left a message stating I had access to information about Iraq and Afghanistan that I believed was very important. However, despite leaving my Skype phone number and personal email address, I never received a reply from The New York Times.
I also briefly considered dropping into the office for the political commentary blog Politico, however the weather conditions during my leave hampered my efforts to travel. After these failed efforts I ultimately decided to submit the materials to the WLO [WikiLeaks Organization]. I was not sure if the WLO would even actually publish the SigAct tables. I was concerned that they might not be noticed by the American media. However, based upon what I had read about the WLO through my research described above, this seemed to be the best medium for publishing this information to the world within my reach.

Chelsea Manning writes to TIME Magazine for Thanskgiving, what she is thankful for here



So those who go to the press, which is legally protected to publish government secrets under the 1st Amendment, and does so all the time,  only do so after either going through the legal internal chains to report abuse, as Jeffrey Toobin and NSA defenders in Congress and the Intelligence Community say Snowden should have done, or after being ignored over a long period of time, usually several years, or waiting for policies to change.

Senator Ron Wyden considered for a long time leaking NSA abuse on the Senate Floor, and is legally allowed to do so under the Senate Rules

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/317319-wyden-considered-disclosing-nsa-secrets-on-senate-floor

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a longtime critic of the National Security Agency's (NSA) surveillance programs, told Rolling Stone that he considered disclosing classified information on the Senate floor prior to the leaks by former contractor Edward Snowden.
The Speech or Debate Clause of the Constitution shields members of Congress from prosecution for statements that they enter into the Congressional Record.
And then there are "official leaks" by Administration officials, which makes the govt look good--I guess since no documents are released to the press, this is OK, as it happens all the time with no consequences WaPo story
“Shihata is among the few remaining members of al-Qaeda’s old guard,” said a U.S. counterterrorism official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of not having authorization to talk publicly about the movements of the al-Qaeda figures.

CSM story
A senior U.S. law enforcement official said Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman was taken alive overnight in the beach resort town. The official was not authorized to discuss the arrest and spoke on condition of anonymity.


Iowa Senator Tom Harkin is retiring now after 40 years in Congress. Before he was elected himself, he served another US Congressman.  Harkin was fired when he saw abuse in Vietnam and went to Life Magazine with the pictures.  He was told at the time that "he would never work in DC again."

Here he talks about "not always trusting what your government tells you about 'the enemy'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3GrKX1jATXA

https://www.harkin.senate.gov/issue/protection/
Senator Harkin's commitment to human rights came into focus in 1970, when he went to Vietnam as a young Congressional staffer on a "fact finding" mission. Unfortunately, when Harkin stumbled on some horrifying cases of abuse, many delegation members did not want to face the facts. Harkin went to Con Son Island, where the South Vietnamese government was keeping hundreds of political prisoners in "tiger cages" in the ground, shackled and living in unspeakable squalor. When he returned to the States, despite the objections of his superiors, Harkin spoke out. His photographs of the tiger cages were published in Life magazine, and for his courage, he was fired.
 http://www.historiansagainstwar.org/resources/torture/luce.html

The Tiger Cages
In 1970, President Nixon sent a delegation of ten Congressmen to Viet Nam to investigate pacification. A part of their mandate included a visit to a prison in South Viet Nam as a way to be allowed to visit a prison where U.S. POWs were held in the North.
Tom Harkin, then an aide to the congressional group, convinced two of the Congressmen to investigate stories of torture in the Tiger Cages off the coast of Viet Nam (the French built them in 1939 to hold political opponents; similar ones in French Guinea became famous in the movie Papillion, starring Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman). The congressman requisitioned a plane for the 200-mile trip to Con Son Island. I was asked to go as an interpreter and specialist in Vietnamese prisons. At that time I was working for the World Council of Churches.
On the way out Frank Walton, the U.S. prison advisor, described Con Son as being like "a Boy Scout Recreational Camp." It was, he said, "the largest prison in the Free World."
We saw a very different scene when we got to the prison. Using maps drawn by a former Tiger Cage prisoner, we diverted from the planned tour and hurried down an alleyway between two prison buildings. We found the tiny door that led to the cages between the prison walls. A guard inside heard the commotion outside and opened the door. We walked in.
The faces of the prisoners in the cages below are still etched indelibly in my mind: the man with three fingers cut off; the man (soon to die) from Quang Tri province whose skull was split open; and the Buddhist monk form Hue who spoke intensely about the repression of the Buddhists. I remember clearly the terrible stench from diarrhea and the open sores where shackles cut into the prisoners' ankles. "Donnez-moi de l'eau" (Give me water), they begged. They sent us scurrying between cells to check on other prisoners' health and continued to ask for water.
The photos that Harkin, today a U.S. Senator from Iowa, took were printed in Life Magazine (July 17, 1970). The international protest which resulted brought about the transfer of the 180 men and 300 women from the Cages. Some were sent to other prisons. Some were sent to mental institutions.

Harkin we will miss you and your courage
He wrote about the experience in a cover story for The Progressive in October 1970 called “Vietnam Whitewash: The Congressional Jury That Convicted Itself.” He said he couldn’t ignore the voices of the prisoners in the tiger cages begging him to tell their stories. And he also said: “One man can stand up and make a difference.”

If only Snowden, Manning, were senators at the time they spoke out........



NSA/Huawei/Apple

There has been a lot written about Apple's invlolvement with NSA spying revealed by Edward Snowden, including PRISM, DROPOUTJEEP, and bugs in IOS and OS operating systems, as well as stories about Angry Birds, leaky apps such as Google Maps and many other revelations in the Snowden documents.

Here is computer security expert and journalist Jacob Appelbaum talking NSA revelations including DROPOUTJEEP used for APPLE products.
So DROPOUTJEEP, so you can see right there. So, SMS, contact list retrieval, voicemail, hot microphone, camera capture, cell tower location. Cool. Do you think Apple helped them with that? I don’t know. I hope Apple will clarify that. I think it’s really important that Apple doesn’t.
Here’s a problem. I don’t really believe that Apple didn’t help them. I can’t prove it yet, but they literally claim that any time they target an iOS device, that it will succeed for implantation. Either they have a huge collection of exploits that work against Apple products, meaning that they are hoarding information about critical systems that American companies produce and sabotaging them, or Apple sabotaged it themselves. I’m not sure which one it is. I’d like to believe that since Apple didn’t join the PRISM program until after Steve Jobs died that maybe it’s just that they write shitty software. We know that’s true.


Marcy Wheeler is daily required reading by the way.......
Here is Marcy Wheeler (Blog, Twitter) writing about Apple's latest revelations on their security flaws

Marcy writes (emphasis is mine)
Now, if I were a leading device/consumer products company with an incentive to get consumers deeper into the cloud and living further and further online, particularly if I were a leading device/consumer products company sitting on mountains and mountains of cash, upon reading the report last September, I would throw bodies at my code to make sure I really was providing the security my customers needed to sustain trust. And given that this is a key part of the security on which that trust relies, I would think the mountains of cash device/consumer products company might have found this bug.
According to rumors, at least, this bug was not found by Apple with all its mountains and mountains of cash; it was found by a researcher.



But before Snowden's revelations, Congress was warning Americans about ANOTHER issue with a government spying on Americans through computer hardware and software, China's Huawei and ZTE companies, accused of being linked with Chinese intelligence and worries that the Chinese government could put in malware or other spying technology in their products that were sold in America.

So MY question is with all of these concerns about Huawei, why didn't Congress work as hard to protect Americans from other companies that had spying operations that could have targeted Americans??


Huawei is security threat says Mike Rogers
The panel’s probe coincides with increased U.S. warnings about digital spying by China. U.S. counterintelligence officials called China the world’s biggest perpetrator of economic espionage in a report last November, saying the theft of sensitive data in cyberspace is accelerating and jeopardizing an estimated $398 billion in U.S. research spending.
Oddly enough, this "update" on Huawei came at the end of the 60 Minutes piece on NSA, criticized as propoganda by many journalists covering the NSA and Snowden revelations Mike Rogers on 60 Minnutes

Here is the full CBS 60 Minutes NSA piece

And the criticism
"Don't be fooled by 60 Minutes NSA piece"

60 Minutes checks Journalistic skepticism at the door

60 Minutes does NSA PR

and of course don't forget Twitter, where many live tweeted the problems with the coverage NSA report outrage   NSA report


This could have been done by Apple itself, as in the past it has very publicly blocked some developers from bringing apps to the store that were deemed politically sensitive

10 Apps Blocked

From Democracy Now!

 Drone strikes info on your iPhone
A new iPhone app has been released that tracks every reported U.S. drone strike overseas. Over the course of two years, Apple rejected different versions no less than five times....Apple stalled the app’s approval for political reasons before Begley found a workaround....They said that it was excessively crude or objectionable content.


 Or in other cases there are apps simply not available in the store you use in your country, and you get the message
The item you've requested is not currently available in the U.S. store link

 If Congress and Mike Rogers really cared about American's privacy, computer security, and America's intellectual property, as well as military hardware, we should

A) stop dragent surveillance
B) block Huawei and other hardware and software where there are security concerns because of foreign governments
C) prevent American's access to potentially harmful hardware and software

Otherwise it is just more hypocrisy and double talk from Congress and NSA about protecting Americans security and privacy.

Sunday, August 25, 2013

Manning, Snowden, Me

I support Private Manning and Edward Snowden, [as well as other Whistleblowers like Thomas Drake, Bill Binney, J. Kirk Wiebe, Russell Tice]. They went to serve our country after 9/11, interested in public service and protecting national security, working to protect Americans from another attack.  Instead they found abuses of power, covering up attacks on civilians, journalists, rescuers and children. Massive data collection on American civilians not accused of any crime, officials lying to the media, American Citizens and our oversight branch of government, Congress.

Journalism is not terrorism and whistleblowers are not spies.  I have not seen a case yet where a leaker didnt AT FIRST bring  their claims of abuse to the proper channels, trying to make sure they followed the law in reporting abuse, becoming Whistleblowers within their agencies, until their concerns were ignored for too long, told not to worry, its all legal, then they leaked to the press, and now we have the debate that Obama ""welcomes us having.""

Snowden was working for the NSA as a contractor with Booz Allen Hamilton. Manning was in Army Intelligence in Iraq. They both joined to serve their country in the war on terror.

I was a senior in High School when 9/11 happened. I thought about joining the military or CIA and serving my country overseas.  I could have been a Manning or a Snowden; a witness to abuse and atrocities and government classification and cover ups, and I would not be able to stay silent.

Open Source Analyst, CIA
https://www.cia.gov/careers/opportunities/analytical/open-source-officer-foreign-media-analyst.html
Are you a news junkie? Do the foreign affairs headlines pull you in? You should consider the CIA's Open Source Center (OSC) for your next career. Hiring Open Source Officers (OSOs) as foreign media analysts, OSC is the Intelligence Community's expert in collecting and analyzing foreign-based, publicly available information. It's about knowing what's going on and what it might mean down the road. To get there, OSOs apply foreign language, area knowledge, and subject matter expertise to review and assess foreign-based websites, social media, and traditional press sources--in short, the vast majority of information generated. Together with OSC's geospatial analysts, cyber specialists, librarians, and data scientists, the challenge is to identify trends, patterns, and relationships that provide unique insights into national security issues.

The candidates need to have a keen interest in foreign affairs demonstrated by formal education or previous life/work experience. They also need strong writing and analytic skills; foreign language proficiency; well developed Internet research skills; excellent communication and English language skills.


State Department
http://careers.state.gov/specialist/career-tracks#it
Information Management Specialist
Information Management Specialists (IMS) manage and operate worldwide information technology infrastructure, including PC local and wide area networks, telecommunications systems, telephone and UHF/VHF programs, and diplomatic pouch and mail services.




IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME, and so I support Manning and Snowden, knowing that they would have supported me.

#Manning #Snowden, #Whistleblowers

BLOW THE WHISTLE!!!


Saturday, July 6, 2013

Data Mining is the Issue






ENCRYPTION WORKS!!!!! say goodbye to NSA!!!
https://pressfreedomfoundation.org/encryption-works

https://pressfreedomfoundation.org/sites/default/files/encryption_works.pdf



HERE WE GO AGAIN----JULY FISA 3 MONTH METADATA RENEWAL




of course new info is that they just ask for passwords
http://m.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/are-the-feds-asking-tech-companies-for-user-passwords/278126/



DATA MINING IS THE ISSUE---NOT Snowden, Wikileaks, Greenwald, Bush versus Obama, etc.

Amendment 4
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
4th Amendment 

4th Amendment and Electronic Surveillance 

4th Amendment Caselaw on Eavesdropping 

History of Understanding 4th Amendment and courts
https://ssd.eff.org/wire/govt/wiretapping-protections

FISA court secretly broadens NSA powers

“”All of the current 11 judges, who serve seven-year terms, were appointed to the special court by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., and 10 of them were nominated to the bench by Republican presidents. Most hail from districts outside the capital and come in rotating shifts to hear surveillance applications; a single judge signs most surveillance orders, which totaled nearly 1,800 last year. None of the requests from the intelligence agencies was denied, according to the court.””


COLLECTING THE DATA IS THE ISSUE----
http://jonathanturley.org/2013/07/13/what-arent-they-collecting/

WIRED PROFILE ON NSA DIRECTOR KEITH ALEXANDER---towards waging cyberwar
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/general-keith-alexander-cyberwar/all/


NSA says ""we only listen to potential terrorists and those they talk to"" (but actually that's everyone)
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/07/nsa-spokesman-accidentally-admits-that-the-government-is-spying-on-all-americans.html
  
Meet Judge Roger Vinson

BUSH program

FBI and Bush illegal wiretapping program

Supreme Court Rules GPS tracking is Unconstitutional

NSA General Alexander must correct Fact Sheet

NSA bulk email collection program

Letter to DNI Clapper



DID ANYONE NOTICE IN AUGUST 2012 WHEN WILLIAM BINNEY SPOKE??? NO???
THEN THANK EDWARD SNOWDEN!!!!

WILLIAM BINNEY INTERVIEW
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/opinion/the-national-security-agencys-domestic-spying-program.html?_r=1:

3 Former NSA employees verify Snowden
http://m.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/06/3-former-nsa-employees-praise-edward-snowden-corroborate-key-claims/276964/

USA Today---We told you so
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/06/16/snowden-whistleblower-nsa-officials-roundtable/2428809/

If PRISM works so well why stop with terrorism??
http://m.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/if-prism-is-good-policy-why-stop-with-terrorism/277531/

Infrastructure of Tyranny courtesy of Obama and Bush
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/06/all-the-infrastructure-a-tyrant-would-need-courtesy-of-bush-and-obama/276635/
Combining the people who didn't trust Bush and the ones who don't trust Obama adds up to a sizable part of the citizenry


Meta data is invasion enough

NSA admits doesn’t need warrant to listen to phone calls
Changes in technology sometimes does need new laws
Meet “”Boundless Informant””
again data mining is the issue here---not snowden or greenwald---BUT